Natallia Radzina: No Matter What Lukashenka Does Today, He Is Doomed To Leave

The regions are categorically against today's power.

Is a revolution brewing in Belarus? What is the prospect of Lukashenka’s leave? How to protect the election results? Who will be the next president of the country? Editor-in-Chief of the Charter97.org website Natallia Radzina answered these and other questions in the programhosted by famous Russian politician Vladimir Milov.

- Natallia, thank you very much for being with us today and, if possible, from the Russian audience (I can more or less fairly imagine that people are interested in) I would like to ask you some questions about the situation in your country. And firstly, if possible, give us such a general outline: to which extent Lukashenka’s behaviour during the coronavirus pandemic affected his positions, what’s happening with the elections, as we see there are a lot of people on the streets. Does all this have a chance? I’m reading on many opposition-minded resources that it’s almost revolution, it is coming to Belarus. Is it really a revolution? Can you tell us briefly about the situation?

- The “velvet revolution” has started in our country. Protests intensify throughout Belarus. For example, today (June 7 - edit.), while we are talking here, people have taken to the streets in 37 cities of Belarus. That is, there has never been such activity in Belarus during the election campaign.

It is obvious that Belarusians are sick and tired of Lukashenka, today his rating really makes 1 to 3%. There is a common understanding that if we want to get rid of the dictator, we must be active, we must come out, and defend our right to fair and free elections.

As for the coronavirus epidemic, it became a trigger, a trigger that provoked, among other things, these protests. However, it should be noted that this protest activity has accumulated over the years, and is associated not only with the epidemic, but also with the tiredness of people to live in fear, under dictatorship, with the tiredness to live in hopelessness, in a situation of constant repression, to which the economic crisis has added up now.

For 26 years, Lukashenka, in general, has ruined the country. This is such a classic dictator who robs his own people, who have 18 residences today, who spend budget money on their palaces, on fun sporting events, on Maybachs and new planes. Everyone knows that his family, his sons, his inner circle enjoy prosperity in the country, and only people live poorer and poorer. Today, in the regions, salaries are already around $ 100, $ 200 is considered a very good salary. At the same time, prices in Belarus are very high, I think that even the Russians who come to our country have already noticed this. It has long ceased to be a “land of cheap products”, it has long ceased to be a paradise - Belarus is actually a poor dictatorship where desperate people go out to protest in the streets today.

- And these shocking ratings that we saw. Even the nickname “Sasha the 3%” has appeared, now, probably, it’s “Sasha the 1%”. How much do you believe these ratings can be trusted in terms of sampling? Because these are, after all, as I understand it, online polls, and there is a traditional situation: the urban population is for change, but some rural areas still conservatively vote for stability. Or are you trying to say that the whole country is specifically against him?

- Yes, absolutely the whole country is against. And you have the wrong idea, Vladimir, because in reality today the regions are incredibly active. Active like never before. In the regions today, thousands of people take to the streets. And we can say for sure that precisely the province, the regions are categorically against Lukashenka. The capital has traditionally always been against the dictator. And now, in addition to large cities, all the rest, even small settlements of Belarus, have joined.

And these online polls are absolutely representative, they can be trusted. Of course, in a dictatorship, sociological polls in the classical representation are impossible. Moreover, they are banned in Belarus, a special license is required, which is issued by the Lukashenka administration. Today, in addition to online surveys, there is no other way to measure public opinion.

Recently, there was a good video that was actively distributed in Belarus when several prankers took to the streets of Minsk and began to try to collect signatures for Lukashenka with a hidden camera. Out of 20 people, only one man who urgently needed to hangover, put his signature for Lukashenka for 50 kapeykas. All the others categorically said: “No! He must leave.”

- You mean, this is the first time in history when the whole country is really covered by protests?

- Yes. Protests have covered the whole country. Dozens of thousands of people are out in the streets. Today, people have taken to the streets in 37 cities, and people will continue to come out. Today they sign for the alternative candidates who oppose Lukashenka, they come to understand that it will be necessary to defend their choice in the streets.

- How can the situation develop? People ask me: is at least a relatively honest vote count really possible, in principle; and how in general, with such index of support, will Lukashenka draw a Viktary for himself? If you can, please tell us a little more about the work of election commissions in Belarus, because in Russia it is different. There are regions where they come up with completely made-up figures, but there are many regions where there is a relatively honest vote count with some kind of public control. And how is it in your country, precisely from the point of view of the voting procedure and falsification of results?

- In fact, all the elections and referenda that took place in Belarus under Lukashenka were falsified. Of course, there is a centralized system of fraud, and this, I think, will continue to happen now. Another thing is that this time no one will believe that even 10 or 20% of voters will vote for Lukashenka. No matter what the authorities arrange today, no matter how they try to organize carousels or use the administrative resource, as always, coerce state employees, conscript soldiers to early voting, and then draw that 30% voted ahead of schedule, no matter what they do today - people will no longer believe it.

Moreover, I think that those state employees who traditionally participated in fraud in the previous elections, this time they will be afraid to falsify. Since, I think, it will be very difficult for them to walk the streets later, look into the eyes of their relatives or neighbors. They will just be scared to live. And I think that this time Lukashenka may not succeed.

- So you see such a scenario that they will really be forced to count votes and admit that he did not win, or they will draw a Viktary outrageously anyway, despite the fact that everyone understands that he lost, and then the whole country will take to the streets? Which scenario seems more real to you?

- The scenario that seems the most real to me is to take to the streets without waiting for the votes to be counted, because people in the streets will push this situation to a positive outcome. No need to wait for the official election results. There is no other scenario for changing the situation and protecting the votes, except for taking to the square.

- Natallia, please answer to such a direct question. Do you see the real prospect of Lukashenka leaving after the elections on August 9?

- I see the option of Lukashenka leaving either before the August 9 election, or on the voting day, or a few months after. Even if he manages to stay in power by force, he will not last long. Absolutely definitely, he has no resource today to extend his power. He has no rating, he has no support from the population, he has no basic money. Today, the Belarusian economy is in very poor condition, all experts predict an economic collapse, moreover, it has nowhere to take this money from.

He is incapable of undertaking any political or economic reforms that could help him survive. This person is sick with power, he really is not able to share it with anyone. And therefore, no matter what Lukashenka does today, he is in any case doomed to leave, to leave the power.

- The other day there was a completely outrageous, bestial, ugly story, when Lukashenka began to scare everyone with the Andijan events, when the Uzbek dictator Karimov, deceased now, shot protesters in Andijan in 2005. That is, as I understand it, he just said so: “If anything happens, we will shoot like they did in Andijan.” Do I understand this correctly?

- Yes. He simply went crazy with fear and really said it, which caused great fury among people. Because to declare such things is fraught, including international sanctions. He hoped that everyone would be scared, but we see today that people continued to take to the streets. It is perfectly clear to everyone that Lukashenka himself is just afraid in this situation.

I think that there are hardly any military men who will commit a crime and obey the order to shoot at civilians. I would like to recall that Lukashenka is also an illegitimate president. He absolutely has no right to be in power. All his orders are illegal. And such orders are a double crime. Therefore, of course, any military or police officer who obeys such an order will go to the dock with Lukashenka.

- This is a very important point. Are these threats - is he trying to intimidate people so that no one moves a finger, or is he really seriously ready to go to such a cruel force scenario, including shooting?

- I can say that he is very uncomfortable living with the nicknames that Belarusians gave him: “Cockroach” and “Sasha The 3%.” He is trying to talk a big game, banging his fist or shoe on the table, and intimidating Belarusians. Although, of course, nothing can be ruled out, today we are turning to the international community to pay attention to these threats of the dictator, because, in general, after this you can convene the UN Security Council - in the center of Europe, an illegitimate ruler threatens to shoot people. Of course, he was scared, but he should be held liable for such words. And we will seek, among other things, an international condemnation of such practice. But, as one of the opposition leaders Dzmitry Bandarenka recently said, if Lukashenka just makes a move and tries to do something against the people in Belarus, then the fate of Ceausescu awaits him.

- All our sympathies are on your side and we, of course, will conduct a powerful campaign moment in connection with your election campaign. In no case should any such provocative actions by the Lukashenka regime be allowed, and the rights of people must be respected.

Also, let's talk about rivals and presidential candidates who are against or, as they say, possibly against Lukashenka. As far as I understand, well-known Belarusian oppositionist and participant in past campaigns Mikalai Statkevich was arrested and he was not allowed to run because of a criminal record. And now there are conditionally three such opposition candidates. This is Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, the wife of blogger Siarhei Tsikhanouski, who has been very popular on YouTube over the past couple of years criticizing the Lukashenka regime, and now he has been arrested and not allowed to run for president. And there are two, as we say in Russia, system candidates, that is, they are people from the system who seem to have moved away from it, and now have begun to criticize Lukashenka too. This is the former head of Belgazprombank, a subsidiary of Gazprom in Belarus, Viktar Babaryka. And the second candidate is Valer Tsapkala, a former system politician, but now he seems to have moved to the stage of criticism. As I understand it, there are three candidates. What is the balance between them? Which of them stands for what? Tell us a few words, please. I will ask clarifying questions later.

- There are two unconditional leaders in Belarus today. This is Siarhei Tsikhanouski, although formally the presidential candidate is Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, his wife, because the authorities refused to register Siarhei himself. This is a popular blogger. A really very popular person in Belarus who challenged Lukashenka’s system, created the popular YouTube channel “Country for Life”, began to travel to the regions, shoot how people live - poorly, in need, how their rights are violated. It was in the outback, in small cities, that he found a connection, contact with the people, and became incredibly popular. People began to take to the streets at his call in these small cities, gradually a wave of protests reached the regional cities and Minsk. And in general, before the arrest, it was already such a Belarusian Lech Walesa, after whom people took to the streets.

Today, when Siarhei was arrested as a result of ugly, arrogant provocation, people are waiting in line to sign for his wife, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, who is becoming a presidential candidate.

The second candidate is Viktar Babaryka, who worked for 20 years as the head of the board of Belgazprombank, and then resigned. He is known for his philanthropy, because thanks to his efforts, both the paintings of Marc Chagall and the original of the Bible printed by Francysk Skaryna were returned to Belarus. Surprisingly enough for everyone, he decided to run for president, but nonetheless he was supported by quite a lot of people, including the middle class (if we can say that there is one in Belarus), the intelligentsia and entrepreneurs.

Today, Babaryka carefully, but still criticizes the Lukashenka regime. And I see that the more he criticizes the Lukashenka regime, the more support he gets among the population. Of course, before the day of registration it is difficult to be very categorical and radical, since there is a threat that you will not be registered. Many hope that after the registration phase, candidate Babaryka will become more active and more radical with respect to the Lukashenka regime, but already today what he says is a matter of respect. For example, he responded to Lukashenka’s threats against Belarusians, said that Belarusians are a strong people, they won’t take any provocations, and will put in place anyone who is just trying to threaten them with bloody reprisals. His team lodges complaints with the CEC and demands to remove Lukashenka from the election for numerous violations. In general, good steps are being taken, and we hope that in the future he will turn from the system candidate into a popular one.

- And what about Tsapkala?

- Tsapkala worked for quite a long time in the system of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry. It's hard for me to say anything about him. He was also one of the leaders of the High-Tech Park. For me, he was always a gray Belarusian official. The fact that he also went to this election now is a big surprise for me. I really hope that this candidate is not fake. I really hope that he will be able to influence the Belarusian nomenclature, which should already reflect and understand that Lukashenka is an unequivocal bankrupt, and with him the country is only at a standstill. Therefore, we hope that Valer Tsapkala will contribute to the process of change in Belarus.

- I correspond a lot with people from Belarus, and of course, there are many suspicions that Babaryka and Tsapkala are such candidates ... We have a well-developed technology in Russia when they specially invite a candidate who obviously has no chance to win, and he even comes out with some criticism of the authorities and gets his 20%, and Putin is doing well. A lot of people suspect that Babaryka and Tsapkala play such a game. From your words, I understand that there are obvious signs, as political scientists say, of a split in the elites, that these systemic people have already begun to seriously politically oppose Lukashenka. Do you have a hope that they can contribute to real changes and these are not just fake candidates to create the illusion of competition?

- As for Viktar Babaryka, according to online polls, he is gaining about 60% of the vote today. In this situation, of course, this is not a gray candidate, as you said, with no chance of Viktary. Of course, there is the threat you are talking about. Of course, the first thing we did, as soon as these people announced that they were becoming presidential candidates, we thought that they were spoilers. And such a threat remains. Because we still did not hear from these candidates, including Viktar Babaryka, just how exactly he was going to defend the results of these elections.

Yes, he encourages people to come to the polls, but so far we have not heard what to do and how to protect the voting results. Therefore, we will see how he will behave further.

- This, by the way, is a very important moment. Have I correctly understood from your words that according to the polls, exactly Babaryka has the greatest chances to formally win this race?

- Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya and her husband, blogger Tsikhanouski, are leaders, and Viktar Babaryka is the undisputed leader.

- But is it still difficult to understand the situation between them? That is, it’s one of them ot the other, right?

- It’s one of the two of them. Again, what is the Belarusian election in the current environment? This is the inability to participate in it for many opposition leaders. Even the same Siarhei Tsikhanouski could not participate. Instead, his wife goes there. The same Mikalai Statkevich, who is also arrested today, could not participate. Most opposition leaders do not participate in this election because they were sentenced to different terms of imprisonment under criminal articles, and therefore have no right to. Therefore, this election cannot be called fair in any case, no matter how we look at it, no matter what the results are. Even if we protect them. Because not all leaders participated in the election.

But this is already the second stage, I hope that the changes in Belarus will nevertheless come, we will be able to protect the results of this election, we will be able to hold free parliamentary election this year, and start changing the country. For the transition period, the candidacy of the same Viktar Babaryka is quite acceptable.

- So you see the situation in such a way that if Lukashenka leaves the power following the results of this election, then immediately it is necessary to hold parliamentary election in the already free democratic atmosphere?

- Of course. First of all, it is necessary to return the effect of the 1994 Constitution, which Lukashenka repeatedly illegally changed in his favor during the reign. And it is necessary to immediately hold free parliamentary election in which all political forces of the country can take part.

- All dictators like to illegally change the Constitution in their favor. Now Russia is going through such a process. This is a very important point that a candidate who has a chance to win must have the determination to defend his victory, should Lukashenka say: I don’t know anything, I scored 60% and go all the way.

But I wanted to talk in more detail about Siarhei Tsikhanouski. First of all, dear Russians, be sure to watch his Country for Life YouTube channel, if you haven’t seen it yet. Because in Russia, unfortunately, Lukashenka is quite popular. This is just a fact. And mythology is very widespread, like, yes, there is a dictatorship in Belarus, but there is order, and people live well. Watch the Tsikhanouski channel, the man really travels around the provinces and shows how people actually live in the Belarusian outback - not very well, to put it mildly.

But the question is. Rather, several questions. What I hear again from my Belarusian viewers and subscribers: many are alarmed that Tsikhanouski does not have a great political biography, and he only recently started it. That is, as far as I understand, he started his channel a couple of years ago, and he recently became engaged in political activities, and there is a potential dark horse moment, because the same Lech Walesa was known long before the Polish Revolution, and the same Alexei Navalny, whom Tsikhanouski was compared to, was actively engaged in political activities since early 2000s, he has been known for 20 years. But Tsikhanouski has recently appeared in many ways, has no political experience, and many are alarmed. People just want to figure it out. How could you characterize him in more detail as a candidate, except for videos on YouTube?

- It does not surprise me that Siarhei Tsikhanouski appeared right now. In Belarus, it’s quite a dangerous business to engage in politics, and many oppositionists in Belarus were kidnapped or killed, or went through prisons, or died as a result of beating, or imprisonment in very severe conditions. Plus, there is always defamation of the opposition from TV screens. Naturally, this does not facilitate the arrival of a large number of people, especially in the recent years, when the nuts were screwed very tight.

The appearance of this person is absolutely natural in the wake of the protests that are now arising in Belarus, when people are already tired of being afraid, when they understand that basta, we must protest now.

We now have a variety of leaders. And leaders appear not only in Minsk or in big cities, they appear in the outback. And it’s very cool that people appear who are ready to take responsibility and lead people. So Siarhei Tsikhanouski is one of such people. As far as I know, he was an entrepreneur, then he decided to launch his YouTube channel, talk about how his compatriots live, and gradually came to the conclusion that he needed to become a political leader himself. And this is a normal and absolutely natural process for the conditional Perestroika that has begun in Belarus.

- That is, he quite openly began his activities precisely as a youtuber, and the decision to go into politics matured later?

- Yes. Somewhere he was politically naive, met with everyone: politicians, human rights defenders, public activists. He also contacted me, he asked: what the situation is, what he should do, and how he should work. That is, he was not afraid to ask naive, somewhat childish questions. He studied. I did not try to look smarter than everyone. He studied, worked, and finally made a loud appearance.

- That is, YouTube in our time is revolutionizing political life. And I hope, not only in Belarus. Well, here's the question about his wife Sviatlana. Tsikhanouski himself was denied registration in the elections, but Sviatlana and the group to collect signatures in her support were registered. She collects signatures. How do you assess her chances of being admitted to the very election? And by her very candidacy - it is clear that she is just technically replacing her husband. Most likely, she herself does not possess the same qualities as he. As I understand it, Lukashenka is going to play this card. He has blabbered out that a woman has no place at all in the leadership of the country and so on. That is, he will beat on the women card? In general, will she conduct an independent campaign, will she be registered?

- As for Lukashenka, he behaves, of course, like the ugliest scum ever, so I don’t even want to comment on it. As for Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, this is a wonderful brave woman, this is the faithful wife of her husband, who was not afraid, and began to help him in the struggle for the freedom of her own people. I think that in fact she deserves great respect. Not every woman will go after her husband like that, will risk, including her children’s, and her family’s well-being, agree to become a presidential candidate in his place and bear all the hardships of the election campaign. Therefore, kudos to Sviatlana.

I really hope that she will see the freedom of her husband, and together they will continue their noble work, hand in hand.

- Tell me, is Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya herself somehow politically publicly speaking out or simply supporting, let’s say, the flame of the struggle while her husband is under arrest, and waiting for his release?

- No, she doesn’t act politically. She supports her husband now, writes complaints, including to the Central Election Commission, because Siarhei Tsikhanouski is not just her husband, he is the head of her election headquarters, and his arrest is a direct violation of the law. If Sviatlana is not registered, it will be absolutely illegal. I think that she has collected more than 100 thousand signatures. We see this in the queues that line up in the Belarusian cities almost every day. Therefore, of course, the required number of signatures has been collected for this candidate.

If she is not registered, then people can protest, take to the streets and seek the participation of Siarhei or Sviatlana Tsikhanouskis in this election.

- That is, this could be another such point of destabilization of the situation on the part of Lukashenka if he decides to refuse the candidates who have serious popular support?

- Of course. Because people connect their hopes for change with new people, with new leaders, but not with dictator Lukashenka.

- I have a feeling that Lukashenka, of course, will begin to deny registration. In this regard, in late June-early July, can we get quite powerful protests, even more than a month before the actual election?

- People have no illusions. They are well aware that the changes will not be directly related to voting. Therefore, protests are possible both before the election and after the election.

- Tell me please, but how did the coronavirus affect this? That is, I see that the influence on Lukashenka’s popularity is very serious, and people are annoyed that he refused to introduce any serious quarantine restrictions. In general, what do Belarusians think of this?

- Their attitude is extremely negative, naturally, because a huge number of people began to die. According to independent statistics, in Belarus about 10 thousand people have actually died of the coronavirus, and about a million have been infected. Nobody believes in the official figures given by the Ministry of Health today, since the infection spread in the absence of quarantine at lightning speed, very quickly: children were sent to schools, all enterprises continued to work, restaurants worked, and mass events were held. Lukashenka during the epidemic announced subbotniks, held military parades and various sports competitions. Belarus was the only country in the world where the football championship was held, after that we saw that athletes began to get sick in large numbers, and pensioners, hospital employees, and teachers, that is, people who are forced in their work to contact a lot of people.

In Minsk, even an order was issued prohibiting the burial of those who died of the coronavirus in cemeteries; it was ordered to burn them in crematoria. Many people were not diagnosed with the coronavirus, that is, everywhere it was written that they had pneumonia, or concomitant diagnoses were made - either diabetes mellitus, or heart failure, or cancer. The true causes of death were hidden. Many doctors were refused testing, very many.

So in fact the scale of the epidemic is huge. When people saw their loved ones, their grandparents, parents dying... I myself received a huge number of letters from people who talked about how their loved ones died. It became clear to everyone that this was solely the fault of the authorities, it happened solely because of the criminal order of Lukashenka not to introduce quarantine. Many finally realized that the struggle for freedom is a struggle for life. And if we want to survive, we must fight for change today, and remove this maniac from power.

- This is very important what you say. Because we have a lot of such sentiments in Russia, like: Lukashenka did not enter quarantine, and everything is fine there. My friends, read the Charter’97 news website, there is a lot of real information referring to the evidence of specific residents of Belarus, how bad everything is, about health workers, and about these funerals where relatives are not allowed to go. That is, everything is far from normal. And if Russia took such a path, then there would be a terrible situation, from the point of view of a huge number of seriously ill patients, and deaths, and the inability to properly bury relatives. That is, this factor has also played a very strong political role now?

- Yes, of course. And thank you for advertising the Charter’97 website. Indeed, all the myths about the Lukashenka regime arise due to the lack of information. I know that people not only in Russia but also in Ukraine say: “Oh, what a good president Lukashenka you have.” But this is precisely because the media in your country and other neighboring countries pay very little attention to what is happening in Belarus. Moreover, naturally, there is a fact of corrupt ties between the leaderships of these countries.

Belarus is a transit country, very convenient for various gray schemes, including between Russia and Ukraine. And it is precisely because of this that many people simply don’t understand what is happening in Belarus, and who Lukashenka really is. This is a criminal, a maniac who brought the country to poverty and ruin, because of whom a huge number of people died in the country, not only of the coronavirus.

- Natallia, I wanted to ask about Russia. Do you feel the hand of Russia or any tactics of Russia in all these events? It is clear that it will somehow participate. How does this feel or are you waiting for some possible moments and actions?

- I do not see pro-Russian candidates yet during this election campaign. None of the candidates today dare to speak out in support of Russia, on the contrary, all the leaders of this campaign say that Belarus should be a sovereign independent state. There are no people with Russian flags at any of the numerous actions that take place in the regions, there are no people with posters in support of Putin. On the contrary, we see national symbols, we see slogans against Lukashenka, but I don’t see anything pro-Russian.

- And what is the attitude towards Putin in Belarus?

- There comes an understanding that you also have a dictator. Of course, there was a great influence of the Russian propaganda, which goes unhindered in Belarus - these are Russian television channels, Sputnik agency, and various Russian publications. And this influence of the Russian propaganda caused great concern, at some stage there was a fairly large percentage of people who said that Putin is better than Lukashenka. The hatred towards Lukashenka was so great that, having seen enough of the Russian propaganda television, people decided that perhaps this was a lesser evil.

But in today's situation, understanding comes that Russia is also a dead end, this is not an option. We must live our country, because it is obvious to everyone that in Russia today there is a serious political and economic crisis. And this is your confrontation with the West, and the wars of conquest, and even the situation with the coronavirus - not much better than in Belarus. I think that you also hide a large number of deaths. In addition, the economic crisis erupted - many Belarusians as a result were forced to return today from Russia to Belarus, because they were losing their jobs there.

And in this situation, people understand that it is better to work and live in their own small country, but not be part of the empire next door. We were already there, we didn’t like it there.

- Lukashenka has been peddling the topic of integration for a quarter of a century, but, as I understand it, politically in Belarus this idea is dead today?

- Yes, absolutely dead. If there are any people who advocate this idea today, then these are political marginals.

- And another question in this regard: that is, if someone starts to seriously revive the attempt to merge, will this cause serious rejection in the Belarusian society?

- Of course, a very tough rejection. And I am convinced that today we need not look back or be afraid, but get rid of the Lukashenka regime. If we can get rid of the dictator, we will defend our own independence. Moreover, in this case, we can count on, among other things, strong international support.

- Well, you see, our genius of world geopolitics, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, managed to politically lose Belarus as well. That is, it’s obvious, it’s not just what we are discussing in the stream here, but it’s obvious that nobody in Belarus really comes out with pro-Russian slogans today. In general, to achieve this it was necessary to try very hard, our dear field marshal of the corruption troops - he, of course, is a brilliant man, he is capable of the impossible.

Natallia, thank you so much for the conversation, and, according to Wikipedia’s disclaimer: this article is about events unfolding right at the moment, so we, of course, will do such, I think, special coverage of the events in Belarus in the coming months. This is the most important plot of our days, and we will return to this.

Natallia began with very strong words that the “velvet revolution” is really starting in Belarus, and you know, I have a feeling that, firstly, it is true and, secondly, it is very good, because we have observed for more a quarter of a century how this bastard rogue and thief was destroying a country close to us, and tortured very pleasant people, our neighbors, whom we all love. And finally, firstly, this can be put to an end. And secondly, I’m sure that if this happens, this wave of freedom will necessarily spread to Russia, and in this regard we strongly support Belarusians in their struggle for freedom and against this hellish mafia dictatorship.

Natallia, I wish you success, thank you very much for being with us. Be sure to read the Charter’97. And I hope to see you still on our air, to hear you telling us about what is really happening there, and not the stuff the Russian propaganda television is giving us. Thanks you!

- Thank you, Vladimir! For our freedom and yours!

- Thank you! Long live Belarus! It was the program “Hugs with dictators” with Vladimir Milov. Subscribe to our channel, it will be interesting here.

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